Ep 113 – Dr. Jeremy Weisz, Rise25 – The Gift of Podcasting
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Featuring: Dr. Jeremy Weisz, Rise25
In episode 113, I sit down with Dr. Jeremy Weisz, co-founder of Rise 25 and host of the Inspired Insider podcast. Jeremy and I talk about how podcasting—when used the right way—can become one of the most effective tools for building real relationships, not just content. He breaks down the Dream 200 strategy for identifying ideal clients, why giving value always beats chasing sales, and how his agency uses both podcasting and strategic gifting to keep top-of-mind with partners and clients. We also dive into how he accidentally became an agency owner, the underrated power of thoughtful gifts, and his take on creating a high-impact referral ecosystem. And yes, we end with some rapid-fire questions—including the surprising mascot he’d pick for his agency.
Key Bytes
• Podcasting is a powerful tool for networking and professional development.
• Building relationships through podcasting can lead to business opportunities.
• The Dream 200 strategy helps identify and target ideal clients.
• Giving away valuable information attracts the right clients.
• Gifting strategies can enhance client engagement and retention.
• Podcasting can serve multiple purposes: authority building, SEO, and content creation.
• Networking through podcasts can create referral partnerships.
• Understanding your niche is crucial for effective marketing.
• Regular touchpoints with clients through gifts can strengthen relationships.
• Consider the source of business advice before acting on it.Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Podcasting and Rise 25
02:52 The Evolution of Podcasting and Its Benefits
05:47 Building Relationships Through Podcasting
09:10 The Dream 200 Strategy for Targeting Clients
11:53 Gifting Strategies for Client Engagement
14:54 Rapid Fire Questions and Closing Thoughts
Dr. Jeremy Weisz has been featuring top entrepreneurs with video interviews since 2008 that include founders/CEOs of Pixar, P90X, Atari, Einstein Bagels, Mattel, Kettle Chips, RX Bars, Big League Chew, the Orlando Magic, and many more on www.InspiredInsider.com
He runs Rise25 which helps B2B businesses connect to their ‘Dream 200’ clients, and referral partners and get ROI, using a podcast. They eliminate 99% of the work and make sure you get ROI. Rise25 is an easy button for you to launch and run your podcast.
Podcasting has been one of the best things I've done both personally and professionally. It's been an amazing tool for connecting with referral partners, strategic partners, clients, and more.
Podcasting is like a "Swiss Army knife" because it is business development, referral marketing, strategic partnerships, lead generation, SEO, content creation, and personal and professional development, all in one.
Contact Dr. Weisz on their website, listen to Inspired Insider, or connect on LinkedIn.
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Steve / Agency Outsight (00:01.134)
Welcome to Agency Bites, a podcast dedicating to helping creative entrepreneurs thrive. I'm Steve Guberman from Agency Outsite, where I coach agency owners to build the business of their dreams. Welcome back to Agency Bites. Today I'm joined by Dr. Jeremy Wise, entrepreneur, podcasting expert, and co-founder of Rise 25. Since 2008, he's been interviewing top founders and CEOs from brands like Pixar, P90X, Atari, and RX Bars on Inspired Insider. That's his podcast.
Through Rise 25, he helps B2B businesses connect with their dream 200 clients using podcasts without all the heavy lifting. Beyond business, Jeremy has some wild stories that we're gonna get into like the time his wife delivered their second child in their minivan, not on purpose. And fun fact, he wears basketball shorts under everything. Jeremy, thanks for being here.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz (00:49.69)
Steve, thanks for having me. I love your podcast and I love how you guys talk about the niche and everything else. So people should definitely check out more episodes.
Steve / Agency Outsight (01:00.11)
Appreciate the plug. So do you have Vaxacobal shorts on right now?
Dr. Jeremy Weisz (01:03.22)
You know, the funny thing is I always wear them, okay? When it's warm out, obviously I don't, you know, I don't know if you can see me, but I'm wearing them just, I mean, I don't even have them under anything today. It's actually warm in Chicago. So I'm ready to go.
Steve / Agency Outsight (01:10.946)
There you go.
Steve / Agency Outsight (01:15.886)
So it's from the waist up and basketball hoops from the waist down. I dig it. Yeah. All right. So give us the backstory, man. How did you get into Rise 25? Why podcasting? Why now? Not even now. Why for the past 12, 15 years, whoever spent?
Dr. Jeremy Weisz (01:21.48)
I'm always ready.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz (01:32.02)
Yeah. So the quick story is, so my background is in biochemistry as a chiropractor. You know, in chiropractic school, they teach you to be a chiropractor. They don't teach you anything about business. So when I got out, I started going to business conferences and internet conferences and marketing conferences. And I stumbled across at the time, I don't even know if they were, Steve calling it podcasting, you know, we're talking 2006, seven, right? And it was basically chatting with people and publishing it online.
Steve / Agency Outsight (01:56.398)
Mm-hmm.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz (02:01.532)
Okay. And I really took to it because it, kind of incorporates everything I love, which is professional development and learning. get to learn it, it incorporates networking because I get to talk to really cool people. And, from business development standpoint, I'm talking to people in relationships that could be, you know, you know, lead to business down the line. Right. So all of these things and
Steve / Agency Outsight (02:24.066)
Mm-hmm.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz (02:26.64)
Really, I just geek out on talking to other founders, entrepreneurs. I guess it's also therapy in a sense too for me. And so I started interviewing people online at the time. It had nothing to do with healthcare, chiropractic. It was really just my thirst for learning from other founders and successful entrepreneurs. And I started doing that. And what happened was I formed amazing relationships with people through that, as you know.
Steve / Agency Outsight (02:50.51)
Mm-hmm.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz (02:52.948)
And people started coming to me asking me to help them, right? Cause there, at that point, there weren't many people, know, there weren't like, like it is today, it wasn't widely known, people didn't know what a podcast was. And so I was getting emails and calls from people around helping them, right? And so by accident that turned into a separate business. I wasn't, I didn't go out to set out and create, you know, it's always accidental agency owner, right? And even the funny thing is,
for the first, who knows, like four years I was helping people launch and run their podcast. I didn't even know what an agency was. I didn't even think of myself as an agency. I was just helping people with a problem. And then one of my friends, Ian Garlick was like, dude, you're an agency. I'm like, what are you talking about? He's like, there's this arena called agency and you should look into it. And so I started digging into
my God, there's other people that run companies like this, like a digital agency. And that's how naive I was at the time. You know what mean?
Steve / Agency Outsight (03:59.886)
You just didn't know what you didn't know. There it is, yeah.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz (04:02.268)
No idea, like this whole universe and then I started digging into content and things around running an agency.
Steve / Agency Outsight (04:10.168)
Do you consider yourself an agency? Okay.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz (04:12.498)
Yeah, we, I mean, definitely. I mean, I, don't know what the definition of everyone's, you know, is for agency, but like basically serving the clients in a done for you fashion is, is kind of how I define it. So, so yeah, you, we do that for obviously for podcasting, we'll get people on podcasts. do gifting even for, companies as well. it's all done for you. Easy.
Steve / Agency Outsight (04:37.314)
Yeah, so those are two really awesome services that I want to dig into for agencies because well, first I want to say you're talking almost 20 years ago that you started doing this and probably close to 20, 25 years ago, I met a guy, I was living kind of down the Jersey shore. Any story that starts with that met a guy down the Jersey shore doesn't end well. But this one, was a freelancer working for an agency.
and I was freelancing on the side and so I'd go to these networking things to try and find freelance clients. met this dude, also named Steve, Steve Lubedkin, and his business was podcast Steve. 20-something years ago, nobody heard, and everybody was like, what is this podcast? Apple hadn't even launched podcasts yet. It wasn't a mainstream household term yet. And fast forward now, everybody's got it. mean, millions of podcasts get launched every year probably.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz (05:19.379)
Yeah.
Steve / Agency Outsight (05:32.832)
You're leaning into it to help agencies promote themselves, use it as a lead gen tool. So talk about that as the benefit to what agencies could, should, might benefit from.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz (05:47.728)
Yeah, mean, listen, the way I think about it is this, the fundamental principle I kind of come from is how do I give to my network? How do I give to people in my network? And that could be clients, could be referral partners. And so my, one of, obviously my medium of choice is podcasting. I form an amazing, you know, connection, relationship. I get to learn about them. It's also professional development. So it's kind of like a Swiss army knife, right? It's professional development, it's networking, it's...
referral partnerships, potential clients, it's clients, it's SEO, because it gets turned in, it's social media marketing. This one 30 minute conversation, because we could have this conversation, hey, Stevie, like, Jeremy, let's do a get to know me call. I mean, this could be the same conversation, except for now we capture it and it could just go a lot further. And it can be used for all of those pieces. So it's also authority, right? Because the more gas I've had on, you mentioned some of the people I've
Steve / Agency Outsight (06:29.624)
Mm-hmm. Yep.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz (06:45.33)
you know, had on the show that is authority be like, if I'm reaching out and say, Hey, I've had the, you know, co-founder of Pixar, P90X, RX bar quest nutrition. can list a lot of them. it, it, there's an authority piece to that. Right. And so also just creating content. I think, you know, we talk about, these are external guests, right? But there's thought leadership episodes. Okay. And thought leadership episodes are like highlighting our, our
Steve / Agency Outsight (06:59.79)
Mm-hmm.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz (07:14.322)
You know, so we've done episodes and people can check out free. You do too, like free stuff that people can learn and do it themselves. Or, you know, if they want and they don't want to try and figure it all out, then you don't want the fast track. So we've had episodes on how do I name my podcast? What software and tools do I use? I mean, we give away all of the information on Inspired Insider to help as well. So, I mean, there's so many reasons why I love it and I do it.
And so, you know, it's a shortcut in my opinion.
Steve / Agency Outsight (07:49.176)
I think you nail a really good point that just in general, the idea of marketing, especially in our industries, isn't about, it can't be about sell, sell, sell. It's gotta be about giving away, being of service, being helpful, telling people like what's in my brain, what's in my heart, how can I inspire, how can I help? And then if it resonates and you want more, cool, let's work together. You know mean? Let's engage in an agency model.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz (08:16.595)
I think of it, know, I've talked to people, Steve, about this is like, sometimes I've talked to people, even myself, sometimes I think of they're afraid to give away everything, okay? And that's like, you know, I know if I'm afraid to give it away, it's super valuable, okay? And so I've learned just to give away as much as humanly possible because the right people will wanna work with me, okay? Like the people who,
Steve / Agency Outsight (08:34.094)
Mm-hmm.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz (08:44.916)
want to do it themselves are not a good fit, right? So I give away everything to those people, awesome. So hopefully it helps them, they can do it, but the right people, I'll track the right people, this sounds great, I don't want to do any of this, the people are too busy, they want to focus on their zone of genius, those are the right people. So I think I've talked to people like, well, I don't know if I want to share that. I'm like, well, why? Because you'll just attract the right people anyways, in my opinion.
Steve / Agency Outsight (09:10.958)
Yeah, and the reality is what you can get out of a 60 second short reel or 25 minute podcast isn't what's going to solve all of your business challenges or your marketing challenge or whatever. And so yeah, get to know Jeremy, get to know Rise 25, understand how to launch a podcast. But the reality is if you want the true rubber meets the road results, we need to have an engagement. So yeah, I fully agree with that. Talk about, I think that it's a beautiful,
I, know, business practice, I learned about it a number of years ago. Where'd you kind of pick this up and how did you like start to incorporate it into your marketing plans?
Dr. Jeremy Weisz (09:50.27)
from which the first part cut out for a second. Incorporating podcasting or? Dream 200, yeah. So Chet Holmes wrote a great book actually. And so it's not like we invented this, right? Chet Holmes came up with this and I had actually Amanda on my podcast, his daughter who kind of carried on the tradition. He wrote the ultimate sales machine.
Steve / Agency Outsight (09:55.274)
Dream, your dream 200.
Steve / Agency Outsight (10:02.392)
Mm-hmm.
Steve / Agency Outsight (10:16.105)
cool.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz (10:18.702)
And it talks about this and it talks about just reaching your dream. And for me, think, you he talks about dream clients, right? The way I think of it is kind of a little more holistic, which is I consider the Dream 200, it could be clients, it could be referral or strategic partners, it could be just authorities in that space. And so for me, that's kind of the foundation for the podcast and for the strategy actually. So focusing in on who are the best
Steve / Agency Outsight (10:38.434)
Mm-hmm.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz (10:48.316)
relationships that I want to give to and make sure to zero in on, right? You talk about this when you talk about niche, right? And sometimes we'll have people come to us and they're like, well, I'm like a wealth manager. just, my niche is people have money. I'm like, well, that's not really a niche. You can't really target it. Like to me, you know, we think, I think of, you know, obviously there's warm people that we know, but from a cold people perspective,
Really the way I break it down is consultants or practice management groups in an industry, trade associations in industry, conferences in industry, software or services in industry and speakers and authors. So like when we drill down with that person, I'm like, listen, who are your, and you talk about this too, who are your best clients? Like who do you love working with? Do you get the best results for and meet all those criteria and profitable?
Obviously, hopefully it's profitable or you don't stay in business.
Steve / Agency Outsight (11:46.429)
profitable and you enjoy working with them. Like they let you do your job. those are two key elements as well, but yeah.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz (11:48.989)
Right, totally.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz (11:53.454)
Exactly. And so when it came down to it, he's talked about dentists. Like we looked at his list of clients and for some reason, I think like 30 or 40 % of them were dentists. We're like, did you realize this is the key? like, cause you get, know, anyone with money is not really a good target niche. There's not like an industry trade association. Maybe there is, but like wealth magazine or something. I don't know. But we went in, went in the, dentists, like we can work with that. And so we thought about,
who's kind of the dream 200 sphere in that specific niche. And it makes it very easy to do it, you know, when we're that targeted. Okay, what are the conferences? What are the trade associations? What are the soft, you know, all those things we can look out for that niche and look at kind of that dream 200 sphere.
Steve / Agency Outsight (12:42.198)
Yeah, I was introduced to the concept. So when I had my agency year three or four or so, we started to niche down and we identified four different verticals that we wanted to really lean into. So to your point, we can go to the trade associations, we can get into the the LinkedIn discussion groups, we can be start to be seen as experts in that in those different spaces. But I was introduced to the idea of it was a dream 100 list when I was introduced to it, also through Chet Holmes book.
And I was running a sales team at my last engagement before I opened the coaching practice. And the idea was each person on the sales team needed to identify an area of passion or vertical that they were going to lean into and find 100 businesses that they wanted to reach out to, that they wanted to work with, and then the top three to five people within those. And so now you know who to target. Now you know how to lean into them. And to your point, and I love the parallel here,
It lets you understand who you're gonna reach out to in these different areas, how you're gonna hone your content, how you're gonna hone the topic of your podcast. And yeah, when an agency or any service provider looks at their historical client list, you can easily pull out the commonalities and say, 60 % of my clients have been dentists, or we worked with a wealth management company and they also found, more than two thirds of our clients
we're retiring or near retirement university professors. Like, duh, look for the commonalities. And so yeah, I love the idea of it. I'll typically work with agencies to focus on like a dream 25 or dream 50 or, know, something sub a hundred, cause it can get very overwhelming in a smaller, like 10 to 12 person agency. So yeah, I think, I think it's a beautiful process, but you talk about using podcasts to kind of build out that list.
Do you talk about using that list to turn them into guests to build those relationships or to build content to target those people or both?
Dr. Jeremy Weisz (14:48.792)
I mean both. mean, listen, like we, we have a lot of partners who are agency owners, right? So it's not shocking that I have agency owners on my podcast. And by the way, it goes both ways because when I build my network of agency owners, I can make a lot of referrals and introductions to the people in the network. So I like to be of service. you know, me, I'll give that as an example. you know, if agency owners are great partners for us and I feature a lot of agency owners, we refer to them.
Steve / Agency Outsight (14:54.766)
Mm-hmm.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz (15:18.558)
they can refer to us, you know, obviously if someone does Google ads, we don't, we really stick to what we are good at. We don't do anything really outside of that. So we, makes us a good referral partner for other people. Cause like, Hey, we don't do this. Go do this. you want a website done? Go to the person you want Google ads, go to this person. So we build this network of referral partners. I mean, now agencies, you know, have become our clients and that kind of surprised me at first, cause that wasn't really the intention.
Steve / Agency Outsight (15:37.134)
Mm-hmm.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz (15:47.684)
It was just to build a great network of partners. Because I'm like, even some of the agency owners we work with, they have full capabilities to do everything. But they want to serve their clients. They don't obviously specialize in what we specialize in with the strategy and everything. But when they're sharing the content, so one is obviously the relationship. But two, what you're saying, when they, we'll create a snippet out of it, put it on social.
and it makes it shareable. It's all about their company and what they do. So they want to share it because it talks about them. A lot of times their network are other agency owners, right? that's someone when they share the content, it's going out to that sphere of people. Same thing with the dentist. Like if I put out a content like the dentist, like I know because
My dad and brother are dentists. So they know a lot of other dentists and the people that are connected with on like LinkedIn and some of these platforms are dentists. So it's kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy when you have people in that niche, they're gonna know other people and share it with people in that niche.
Steve / Agency Outsight (16:40.974)
Mm-hmm.
Steve / Agency Outsight (16:55.342)
Is the gifting strategy that you work with your clients on connected to podcasting kind of separate? do they dovetail?
Dr. Jeremy Weisz (17:04.796)
Yeah, I mean, so again, when we look at our, when we use Active Campaign as a CRM, and so we look at the pipeline, we look, all the columns are ways we can give to people, right? So we can have them on a podcast, have I introduced anyone to Steve lately? Have we featured them in our physical newsletter with an insert? Have we sent them a gift? And so we started actually sending gifts to our
clients and partners. And I know people who, and our staff too. And so actually that was just an accident. So our clients and partners started asking us to help them do it because I looked at a lot of solutions and I wanted something that was kind of custom. We do it for my wife's practice. That was custom to like, could just custom to her branding and everything like that. And
We go against some rules, Steve, on this because one, there's a people out there, a lot of people out there that say don't send food because it gets eaten and then disappears. I like getting food personally. So we send food, you know, and it's not like a one-time thing, but we like to send multiple things over the course of several years. So it's not just like, hey,
Here's a thing of chocolates. Thank you. We're just thinking of you. So it wasn't really specific to the podcast. It was just more like who are the relationships we want to give to and what are the ways we can give to those relationships. It could be putting a social post up about them, right? So that's in the column too. Like, hey, have we posted about Steve and his company yet also?
Steve / Agency Outsight (18:57.07)
Do you, so you're not really doing it just for guests, you're doing it for everybody, but you're not just doing seasonality to it. Is it like, and I'm trying to think how agency owners can use it for remaining front of mind for, I don't believe in saying thanks before there's like a closed engagement necessarily. Like you don't want to reward people for bad behavior, but like incremental times of year or parts of a strategy or like, you know, and you talk about like the ROI of it. Like how do you see the uptick there?
Dr. Jeremy Weisz (19:21.139)
Yeah.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz (19:25.236)
Yeah. So like, I mean, like you said, some people, which I was actually surprised about because from, we have touch points, obviously with our staff, just to like say thank you and appreciate them. Right. We have touch points with clients, same thing in touch points with referral partners. I do find, I have found a number of people that we work with and who will send it to their potential clients, like prospects, which I was a little surprised about in one person I talked to.
Steve / Agency Outsight (19:37.102)
Mm-hmm.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz (19:55.188)
on this, like, why don't you send this to your client? They've already paid you money. They obviously value you, send it to your clients and partners. And they were like, no, we just want to send it to our prospect. So I'm like, okay, it's just, guess, a little bit different philosophy, but I like to send, you know, maybe, you know, two to four a year for years to people just to say thank you. And we do include some
know, tips, specific tips on there for ours, right? So it's not just like a thank you, but it's like, if it's a client, it's gonna have a message like, you know, don't forget to mention other guests that you've had on the show to give to them, right? And so it's gonna have, each one's gonna have like a podcast tip. So instead of like a drip sequence of an email, it's actually a physical stationary that they'll get and...
Steve / Agency Outsight (20:42.67)
Thank
Dr. Jeremy Weisz (20:49.396)
maybe they read it, maybe they don't because they just pluck out the food and eat it. But no, we have gotten feedback like, okay, that was a good reminder. And you know, they're not long. So it takes, you know, 30 seconds. I mean, this one's super short. You can see it takes 30 seconds to read it. So we do like it to be content as well.
Steve / Agency Outsight (21:11.182)
So branded, memorable, and continue on the theme of helpful. Like give something that I can take and be like, yeah, I should be able to integrate that into my podcast or into my marketing or something that I can utilize and think, thanks Jeremy, thanks Rise 25. Yeah.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz (21:17.746)
Yeah
Dr. Jeremy Weisz (21:30.202)
Exactly. And it's, you know, something I'd want to get.
Steve / Agency Outsight (21:36.236)
Okay, that works. That's a good tip for people thinking like, what about you for gifting? So I have clients.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz (21:36.734)
Yeah.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz (21:41.15)
I mean, there's one, I mean, that's like a campaign. Like there's also obviously people can do one-off gifting type of stuff, which are usually larger. Like if some of partners referred as a bunch and we're already sending them something every three months, we may get, I've gotten people like a thing, huge thing of Omaha steaks. Like it just comes a huge, like just in dry ice, whatever. I've gotten people a man crate. I don't know if you've seen those before, but like,
You have to pry it open. It's like a wooden box. You lift the pry it open, the crowbar, and it had a customized whiskey bottle with glasses and those bigger things that we could send, but kind of on a regular basis, it's kind of smaller, more affordable so that we can keep sending it over a long period of time.
Steve / Agency Outsight (22:30.656)
Nice. love that. I love the non-generic personable side of things with that. I think that's super important. Yeah, I'll work with clients on that just kind of as part of their outreach and staying front of mind strategy, but not nearly on a level that you guys are doing it. And it's more of like, all right, maybe don't do it during the holidays because everybody's getting flooded with nonsense. Do it, you know, a different time of year or something.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz (22:53.396)
100%. 100%. Yeah, a lot of people I talk to who have doing something, they usually literally only send it on the holidays. And I'm like, that's the literally the most crowded time to send it. And people are going away, they're on vacation, they're with family and it's just super crowded.
Steve / Agency Outsight (23:13.358)
Yeah. So agency owners, there's the tip. Launch a podcast with Rise 25 and build out a gifting strategy with Rise 25. And that way you are front of mind physically and audibly. Yeah. Audibly. There you go. Perfect. and check out Jeremy on ins ins I'm sorry. I'm going to, but inspired insider. I don't know why those two words connected. And I love alliteration. So it's funny to me that like, that's so hard for me. Uh,
Dr. Jeremy Weisz (23:26.14)
Ha ha
Dr. Jeremy Weisz (23:32.144)
inspired insider. I picked a very hard name to pronounce.
Steve / Agency Outsight (23:42.132)
Wrapping this up, I'm going to throw some random, I have a randomizer for my rapid fire questions these days. So these are totally from a robot randomized. So if your agency had a mascot, what would it be?
Dr. Jeremy Weisz (23:55.022)
gosh, a mascot. You know, we've thought about this before and we couldn't really come up with a good one. We owe it one, think John, my John Crocker, my business partner, I think because it's like you want this cool little thing like MailChimp or something. But I think at one point we had thrown out Hippo, but I'm like Hippos are kind of dangerous. So yeah, I mean.
Steve / Agency Outsight (24:20.194)
The most dangerous,
Dr. Jeremy Weisz (24:24.05)
Something that's like love, warm, giving, maybe like a teddy bear or something, I don't know.
Steve / Agency Outsight (24:30.552)
kind of comes to mind when I think about like loving and snuggling and giving and yeah. If you had an extra hour in your day, how would you spend it?
Dr. Jeremy Weisz (24:33.428)
Exactly.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz (24:40.5)
I feel like, yeah, I need an extra hour in my day. you know, my, my first thing I think of, is working out. but I kind of probably split like 30 minutes of working out and 30 minutes with just like a leisurely family, meal.
Steve / Agency Outsight (25:01.986)
Nice, I love that. Can't get enough of those. There is a finite number of family meals available. So finally, what's one of the worst pieces of business advice you've ever had?
Dr. Jeremy Weisz (25:13.908)
Who? Let me think. You know, it comes with the, I don't know if it's the, I define as the worst, but like it's more coming from the person. I've gotten advice from really smart people, except they weren't knowledgeable on that specific topic. Like maybe they were really good at business and it was like a health thing that they were, you know, talking to me about. I'm like,
kind of thing to look at yourself. Like you're not like a beacon, like you're giving me advice on this. it's kind of the advice was around that I've gotten is look at the person giving it to you and have they done it or are they doing it? And I've gotten definitely advice from people that I kind of have to sift out that are mean well, but they aren't doing it and they haven't done it before.
Steve / Agency Outsight (26:11.67)
Yeah, consider the source, Folks, if you haven't connected with Jeremy, he is probably one of the most giving connectors on the entire planet, on the internet, on anything. Connect with Jeremy, Rise 25, check out his podcast, start your own podcast. Jeremy, thank you so much for joining me. I really appreciate you, appreciate your knowledge and your time.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz (26:33.812)
Steve, thanks and check out more episodes of Agency Outside. I love it. I listen to a bunch. Thanks.
Steve / Agency Outsight (26:37.902)
Appreciate it. That means the world to me. Thank you.